Mexican Standoff?

topic posted Tue, October 11, 2005 - 1:01 PM by  Madame Gonzaga
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Racist phrase or knot? I maintain ittsa racist, despite ittsa popular usage. Jist lyke "gyp" eez racist tou ze gypsy folk und "jew down" racist towards ze Jewish folk; "Mexican Standoff" eez racist epithet towards ze Mexican cultures.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff
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  • Re: Mexican Standoff?

    Tue, October 11, 2005 - 1:31 PM
    And you can add "dutch treat" "call a spade a spade" and "irish lunch" to that list as well. Also, many many others that don't immediatly come to mind. When you hear about the horrific crimes happening in New Orleans right now as the half of the force that is apparently bent goes on a rampage, you know that nothing has really changed, the gracious South isn;t always so gracious (and the same goes for the L.A. cops as well).

    :(

    Where's the love people?
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    Re: Mexican Standoff?

    Tue, October 11, 2005 - 1:54 PM
    it's just plain stoooopid

    not to be overly PC,
    but if you're saying something,
    that you can now recognize hurts other people's feelings
    (or impinges on their national identity),
    then just don't do it !
    if you purposely do it ... pee-shaw !
    reminds me of "Indian Giver(s)"

    sad ... we need to re-engineer our semantics

    always try to think about how YOUR actions, a(e)ffect OTHER people
    :-]
  • Re: Mexican Standoff?

    Tue, October 11, 2005 - 4:02 PM
    Good thing us Brazilians have been left out of this. We're glad to be known for football (yes, football), carnival, wax jobs and big butts.

    Does this nationality make my butt look big?
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      Re: Mexican Standoff?

      Tue, October 11, 2005 - 4:39 PM
      My American grandmother, who was a *wee* bit behind the times and not without her own assortment of prejudices, once referred to a black woman as a "Negress", as in "there was this lovely Negress on TV last night". Being a kid, I had no idea what in the hell she meant. I thought she was saying "Nigris", and wondered: isn't that a river somewhere? Or a type of flower or something? So from now on I'm going to refer to the next white woman I see as a "Caucasatrix".
      • Re: Mexican Standoff?

        Tue, October 11, 2005 - 4:49 PM
        My American grandmother firmly maintained that jews were the whiteist race of all. When I went to Japan she had a conniption fit, and said "I can't bear the thought of a sneaky yellow man putting his hand on you!"

        Thanks Disney and Frank Capra for all the great WWII propaganda.

        But she didn't think all coloreds were bad, just the ones who didn't clean her house.

        Other than that, she was a very nice person.
  • Re: Mexican Standoff?

    Tue, October 11, 2005 - 7:23 PM
    I was once told that the term "dirty sanchez" was racist. I still get a chuckle every time I hear it though. I hope that doesn't make me a racist.
    • Re: Mexican Standoff?

      Tue, October 11, 2005 - 7:34 PM
      My Italian great-grandmother coined her own phrase

      "Spends like a Scotsman" - meaning they were cheap.

      Made my Scot grandmother (her daughter-in-law) oh so happy . . .
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        Re: Mexican Standoff?

        Tue, October 11, 2005 - 8:45 PM
        I still make stupid remarks every so often.
        I was on a anti german trip for awhile. I'm part german. It was kind of a self hate thing, I think. I seriously was copping an attitude with german tourists!! I'm a crazy fucker sometimes!
        • Re: Mexican Standoff?

          Tue, October 11, 2005 - 8:48 PM
          I had a girlfriend who was from germany & of course spoke perfect german. we worked together in an army/navy place, and when german tourists would come in to buy camping gear & such, she would never speak to them in german, even if they were having a really hard time with their english. after one such occasion I asked her why she did that, and she replied that she had no interest in conversing with any germans that could afford to travel in the states, because they were all dorks.
          • Re: Mexican Standoff?

            Tue, October 11, 2005 - 11:03 PM
            dorks come in all nationalities.
            • Re: Mexican Standoff?

              Tue, October 11, 2005 - 11:06 PM
              >perfect german.

              no nationality is perfect.


              j/k

              taking it out of context to make some levity here.

              ha ha


              wish i could find another mexican to stand of with (to?)
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                Re: Mexican Standoff?

                Wed, October 12, 2005 - 9:01 AM
                Here's a story:

                In the 1950's, my Dad was an eager young intellectual, going to a Mormon university, and always carrying around paperbacks marked up in the margins with his red pencil. During the summer, he would work construction jobs.

                There was this one guy on the job site, from somewhere in the deep south, who was constantly spouting "nigger" this or "fucking nigger" that. This bothered my Dad, so he confronted the guy at lunchtime.

                "Do you consider yourself a Christian?" my Dad asked.

                "Why, yeah, sure, of course" replied the other guy.

                "So you believe that God loves everybody, like the Bible says"

                "Yeah...."

                "So then, if God loves everybody, how can you hate black people?"

                AHA! My Dad had this man trapped in the pincers of his impeccable logic! Touche'! Check-mate! There was obviously going to be no other choice but for the other guy to slink off with his tail between his legs and fully reconsider the premises of his world-view! So the guy responded:

                "Ya know, I like you a lot, John, but if you keep talking that way, I'm gonna have to take this hammer to you"
                • Re: Mexican Standoff?

                  Wed, October 12, 2005 - 9:53 AM
                  >reminds me of "Indian Giver(s)"

                  growing up, I always thought that referred to the US gov't "giving" lands to the Indians, then taking them back when gold (or good soil, or summat) was found.
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                    Re: Mexican Standoff?

                    Wed, October 12, 2005 - 10:30 AM
                    >Please don't call them "gypsy" -- they're Romani.

                    Looxy heer, Gaje Moosh...I nose sum prefur "Romani," butt myne grated-grandmuzzle, myne kako, und moist ov ze clan prefur "gypsy," as dew I!
                    • Re: Mexican Standoff?

                      Wed, October 12, 2005 - 10:33 AM
                      >growing up, I always thought that referred to the US gov't "giving" lands to the Indians, then taking them back when gold (or good soil, or summat) was found.

                      Misto!
                    • Re: Mexican Standoff?

                      Wed, October 12, 2005 - 7:06 PM
                      >Please don't call them "gypsy" -- they're Romani.

                      Actually the accepted term is Rom, but I call them assholes. Those dancing pricks on their last visit to the Madame stole my multi-ethnic lawn jockeys when camped out in front of my house.

                      I have to tell you this PC thing is beginning to dampen language, creating a banal stripped down syntax where we are required to screen everything before publishing or posting. I happen to be Native American and utilzation of Native American names and descriptions for sports teams and the like really doesn't bother me. However I do write fiction with an emphasis on historical fiction. The language placed within the context of the times is loaded with vernacular that is about as PC as a rich Texan in Juarez brothel.

                      Imagine reading Huck Finn replacing the word "Nigger" with "African American" or "Person of Color" and what happens. An example:

                      "Yes. You know that one-laigged nigger dat b'longs to old Misto Bradish?"

                      Lets create a more PC version...

                      "Yes. You know that physically disabled Person of Color that is currently the property of the elderly Mister Bradish?"

                      I think it lacks something in the translation.
                      • Re: Mexican Standoff?

                        Thu, October 13, 2005 - 8:01 AM
                        Well said!

                        I also write historical fiction and won't apologize for writing realistic dialogue of a particular period. Not only does it tell the reader where they are and when, it also goes a long way to character development.

                        When I read the Politically Correct Fairy Tales some years ago, I was at first amused then saddened at what I saw as the possible future of literature.

                        It wouldn't be so bad if the PC version of a description wasn't twice as long as the original. Can't we shorten it somehow? Or should I say, can't we vertically challenge it somehow?

                        See what I mean?
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    Re: Mexican Standoff?

    Mon, December 12, 2005 - 8:23 PM
    Rock climbers often shorten "carabiner" to "biner" (in America. The Brits call 'em crabs).

    I actually had one Sierra Club tree hugger accuse me of spouting a racial slur when I said, "biner". I would say that as a joke, but this person was serious.

    "Mexican standoff" doesn't sound like a deprecating term to me. But, what do I know? I was flabbergasted that some people objected to the term "refugee" after Katrina, as if the term only applies to dirt poor third worlders. A person seeking refuge is a refugee. I hate the mangling of language in order to protect the sensitivities of those who don't know what words mean.
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      Re: Mexican Standoff?

      Mon, December 12, 2005 - 9:59 PM
      My definition of equal rights in this country is summed up like this:

      "Everyone should have the equal opportunity to be just as annoying and lame as white people"

      So far the plan seems to be working. The dream is in sight.
      • Re: Mexican Standoff?

        Mon, December 12, 2005 - 11:02 PM
        ha ha!
        that mexican story is pretty funny.
        my lover is "latin-O" *snicker* and he's always getting annoyed when he hears people he knows are mexican say that they're spainish.
        what is up with that?

        the whole"all men created equal" thing is problematic.
        it's clearly not true.

        the problem is that what REALLY seems arguable is that
        all people should be given equal OPPORTUNITY to MAKE themselves equal (or more specifically to fully reach their potential).

        while there's no doubt it's fucked up that some people are given a fuck less of a chance in life, i get real sick of people of any color sitting on their fat asses and whining that the same problems that they're guilty of helping propegate are the sole reason why they and their lives suck.

        sadly, lazy, mean, selfish etc dont know no color.
        ugh.
        oh well.
        • Re: Mexican Standoff?

          Mon, December 12, 2005 - 11:03 PM
          ps i'm flaggin you all for being racially...well...something....
          yeah.......
          we must end free speech before it's too late!!!!!!!
          • Re: Mexican Standoff?

            Tue, December 13, 2005 - 10:50 AM
            My dad use to call Native Americans "Blanket Asses" when he got mad at them ...yep ...interesting childhood had I!!!

            (for those who aren't getting the visual- Native Americans would wrap a blanket around them and sit down... ie. blanket ass)
            • Re: Mexican Standoff?

              Tue, December 13, 2005 - 1:44 PM
              Latin Loggerheads?
              • Re: Mexican Standoff?

                Tue, December 13, 2005 - 2:01 PM
                When Nelson Mandela was in the country the MEDIA kept referring to him as "African-American!!"" How fucking STUPID is that!!?? so... fucking... stupid... *weeps*

                latin loggerheads is hilarious, by the way...

                Another thing I hate about current language trends in the media (besides everyone being a "folk" now), is that they refer to males they don't know as a "gentleman," whether they are refering to a politician, or a MASS MURDERER. Don't think the dude that just committed that barbarity needs those kid gloves. "Man" should be sufficient.
    • Re: Mexican Standoff?

      Tue, December 13, 2005 - 9:23 PM
      re:I hate the mangling of language in order to protect the sensitivities of those who don't know what words mean...

      this guy that I had no interest in dating kept asking me out, so I asked if he was a heterosexual homosapien.....he said "hell no! Would I be asking you out if I was??" he was *very* offended....it was all I could do to stifle my laughter until he was out of direct earshot
      • Mohammed Standoff

        Thu, February 9, 2006 - 12:35 AM
        • Re: Mohammed Standoff

          Thu, February 9, 2006 - 9:38 AM
          >>my lover is "latin-O" *snicker* and he's always getting annoyed when he hears people he knows are mexican say that they're spainish.<<

          The Cubans do that a lot. I was unaware the Mexicans were so afflicted. I don't know the Mexican mindset but I can explain the Cuban one. It's a matter of race, class and provincialism. A lot of Cubans claim recent Spanish (from Spain) heritage to try to lift themselves up socially. Now, there ARE a lot of Cubans with recent Spanish heritage. There were multiple migrations from Spain to Cuba over the last 100-110 years, so there is validity to some claims but many are just plain fabricated. Even non-Hispanic Miamians are aware of this and laugh like your lover does when they come across it.
  • Re: Mexican Standoff?

    Fri, February 10, 2006 - 4:16 PM
    what about the chinese fire drill?
    • Re: Mexican Standoff?

      Fri, February 10, 2006 - 4:52 PM
      Honky nachos?
      • Re: Mexican Standoff?

        Sat, February 11, 2006 - 8:29 AM
        Southern racism, Christian ignorance, and Republican evil. Some stereotypes are still acceptable among the "enlightened".
        • Re: Mexican Standoff?

          Sat, February 11, 2006 - 11:55 AM
          Hey! Stop talking about our president that way.
          • Re: Mexican Standoff?

            Sat, February 11, 2006 - 8:03 PM
            Historic Mexico not too far back eeked it's borders well up inta today's Oregon.
            Then tha white people came in at night an' leftpods next to everybody's bed.
            • Re: Mexican Standoff?

              Sun, February 12, 2006 - 2:43 PM
              I was quite amused over the outrage a few years back when some public official-type used the word "niggardly" - even after it was made clear that the word has no connection with the other N-word, some people insisted it was still offencive 'cause the two words sounds alike.
              • Re: Mexican Standoff?

                Sun, February 12, 2006 - 3:19 PM
                I got in trouble once fer hangin' my droogies out a car window!
                • Re: Mexican Standoff?

                  Sun, February 12, 2006 - 9:48 PM
                  That's not funny
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                    Re: Mexican Standoff?

                    Sun, February 12, 2006 - 9:49 PM
                    Dammit
                    • Re: Mexican Standoff?

                      Thu, February 16, 2006 - 9:27 PM
                      Everythings racist, let's all kill ourselves.
                      • Re: Mexican Standoff?

                        Fri, February 17, 2006 - 8:34 AM
                        Flossy, that comment was not very enlightened. Are you saying there is something wrong with zombies?

                        Are you antizombie?




                        Bigot
                        • Re: Mexican Standoff?

                          Fri, February 17, 2006 - 8:47 AM
                          everybody hates dead people.
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                            Fri, February 17, 2006 - 8:57 AM
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                              Fri, February 17, 2006 - 9:40 AM
                              My dream date! He could pack me in ice cream.

                              en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Tanzler
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                                Re: Mexican Standoff?

                                Fri, February 17, 2006 - 11:54 AM
                                Armin Meiwes (born 1961 in Germany) is an Internet user who became known as "Der Metzgermeister" (The Master Butcher). Over the Internet, Meiwes arranged with Bernd Jürgen Armando Brandes to kill and eat Brandes. In March 2001, in Meiwes' home, Meiwes amputated Brandes' penis and Meiwes and Brandes ate the penis together before Brandes was killed. Brandes had insisted that Meiwes bite his penis off, but it didn't work, so Meiwes used a knife. The first knife was too blunt, so he used a sharper knife and finally sliced the penis off. He then began to sauteé the penis in a pan with salt, pepper and garlic. Brandes tried to eat his share of his own penis rare, but he couldn't eat it because it was too tough and as he put it, "chewy". (According to some reports, they attempted to eat it, but it was too dificult to bite raw. then it was fried but became too hard. also after all this trouble Bernd was becoming too faint from blood loss).

                                en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes

                                dude....
                                that's just off kilter!
                                • Re: Mexican Standoff?

                                  Sun, February 19, 2006 - 9:26 PM
                                  >>...but he couldn't eat it because it was too tough and as he put it, "chewy". (According to some reports, they attempted to eat it, but it was too dificult to bite raw.<<

                                  That is oddly comforting. I've always had this little fear in the back of my head... like what if I forgot an important anniversary or something? You know? I mean it's right there surrounded by teeth and if she's angry for some reason...

                                  So it's good to know she couldn't do it anyway, even if she tried, which I'm sure she wouldn't.
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                                    Re: Mexican Standoff?

                                    Mon, February 20, 2006 - 3:58 PM
                                    ROFL....

                                    das funny, yo!
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                                      Mon, February 20, 2006 - 4:01 PM
                                      white girl butt.
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                                        Mon, February 20, 2006 - 9:47 PM
                                        dayglo gelatinous booty
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